Bachmann Impresses in GOP Debate
Our live blog panelists also praised Romney and Gingrich.
Here's a quick recap of what our Patch debate live blog panelists had to say about who won and lost Thursday night's GOP presidential debate in Iowa:
John F.J. Sullivan, editor-in-chief of the Live Free or Die Alliance: No one really stood out. Even Tim Tebow can't save Rick Perry.
Bedford Republican Stephen Poschmann: (Mitt) Romney did very well. He was steady and made no errors. (Newt) Gingrich ran into problems at the start regarding Freddie Mac, but the rest of the debate was smooth for him. (Michele) Bachmann had one of her best showings in a while. Got a lot of opportunities to speak. (Jon) Huntsman didn't get much time and was OK, but did not do anything to stand out. Rick Santorum had some good moments, but I realized tonight that he talks too long. He needs to be more concise. Perry just doesn't impress me. Even when he seems to be saying the right stuff, it just doesn't move me.
We The People founder Jennifer Horn of Nashua: Newt and Ron Paul seemed to lose ground at the hands of Michele Bachmann. It's hard to say from such a distance, but Bachmann and Santorum may have done just enough to help move themselves into position to surprise folks at the Iowa Caucus. Romney remained above the fray for the most part in addition to having some very strong answers that speak to the hearts of Republicans, especially with his "American Century" answers. The biggest question going into this debate was whether or not Newt would push so far ahead that he crushed everyone else – and he did not. In fact, on the Freddie Mac attacks he was actually weak. Surprisingly, Romney may come out of this stronger in Iowa than anyone expected him to be.
Portsmouth Republican Amelia Chasse: Takeaways: No real loser. Romney, Newt, (Ron) Paul all good. Perry, Santorum exceeded expectations.
Former State Rep. Jim Splaine, D-Portsmouth: Once again, President Barack Obama won this debate. The Republican candidates were a wash – no one shined brightly, Mitt Romney remains the candidate to beat, Newt Gingrich isn't going anywhere as his real core positions become better known, and the rest of them are washed up before the first caucuses and primaries begin. By contrast, Obama will stand up well to any of them. I think this debate put the lid on the importance or relevance of the upcoming Iowa Caucus – which will be essentially meaningless. The result will be a New Hampshire First-In-The-Nation Presidential Primary on January 10th that could make or break some of the candidates, and make New Hampshire as relevant to the Republican nominating process as 2008 when it gave a rebirth to John McCain.
Former State Rep. Fran Wendelboe, R-New Hampton: I think Bachmann was redeeming herself until the whiny "I am a serious candidate." Mitt didn't look/act desperate and he defended himself well. Newt didn't gain any points but held his own. Paul had a lot of good answers. Toss up to Paul or Newt. Perry not even in it, IMHO.
Jeff Hatch, Mitt Romney Town Chair for Salem: Romney did well, Gingrich OK. Bachmann and Paul were the only lower tier candidates to go after the top tier and will gain some supporters for going for it.
And here's what the Twitterverse had to say:
@McIntoshBarbara: Huntsman steady, smart and has strong detailed ideas and plans. My vote for him.
@OutofNH: Gingrich won’t regain momentum. Romney didn’t melt down. Huntsman talked real solutions.
B Boe
11:28 pm on Thursday, December 15, 2011
I think Ron Paul won the debate. How many Americans REALLY feel in danger from Iran to such an extent that they think we need to borrow money from China to go fight them with our soldiers? If you really believe that, then Ron Paul is not for you. I would rather just watch Rambo on T.V again than fight another Iraq.
RonPaulNH.com
12:44 am on Friday, December 16, 2011
Well said. In 2003, the hype was that Iraq had WMDs and posed a great threat to the United States. Ron Paul was one of the few to recognize, correctly, that war would be an overreaction and would lead to a long, expensive, unwinnable mess. We find ourselves in a somewhat similar situation today with Iran, except that now our financial condition is much more dire (thanks in large part to previous wars) and we simply cannot afford another war.
Tony Schinella
11:48 pm on Thursday, December 15, 2011
Great point B Boe. I know a lot of folks, many who are Republicans and indies, and who will be taking a Republican ballot in the primaries. Of them, I think maybe three are truly worried about Iran as a threat to the United States and the world. Everyone else is concerned about many other things going on in the nation and the world.
J.t. Williams
3:45 am on Friday, December 16, 2011
Bachmann impresses noone, she's given the exact same debate performance every single time. She sounds like a shrill zealot out there. There's more to conservatism, believe it or not, than beating your chest and looking for someone to fight. Doesn't anyone see how irrational our government acts internationally? More importantly, do you have any idea of the things they do covertly, in our names? Don't be ignorant about this! Remember: we overthrew Iran's pro-western/Democratic government. History did not begin on 9/11, or in 1979- which Bachmann, Santorum, et-al WONT TELL YOU (if they know themselves).
rael real
3:52 am on Friday, December 16, 2011
Dr Paul cured my apathy. Ironic that the one candidate who has stood up for rights and whats right gets put down by his party on Bill of Rights day AND obama signs the indefinite detention into law. Btw bachmann pls go look up what ahmedinijad really said before you start the next bloody war? No? Guess its not worth the trouble... Ron Paul for the love of God!!!
Robert Wittner
7:29 pm on Friday, December 16, 2011
At the time that the abortion issue arose as part of welfare reform, at least one of the Republicans Gingrich supported and campaigned for did accept partial birth abortion. Gingrich was aware of this at the time.
Bachmann was substantively correct on her charge. Gingrich's reference to his voting record was irrelevant to MB specific, concrete charge, which was accurate. She did not refer to his "voting record."
MB has has had the courage and determination to catch out Newt on several substantive lies, especially about lobbying for Freddie Mac. Although Newt was not a registered lobbyist, he did lobby for Freddie Mac. I do not trust him to tell the truth, but I trust Michele Bachmann. She is as smart as a whip and tougher than steel--the little lady with a spine of titanium.
Edward Dunsel
9:22 am on Saturday, December 17, 2011
Whips aren't very smart. Indeed, they are inanimate objects.