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VIDEO: Romney Spars With Occupy Protester

Romney dives into exchange about the 1% during NH stop.

 
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Romney exchange with Occupy protester Wednesday in Manchester, N.H.
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Romney exchange with Occupy protester Wednesday in Manchester, N.H.

An Occupy protester was the first questioner Mitt Romney called at his town hall-meeting Wednesday in Manchester, N.H., and the two engaged in a back-and-forth on economic policies.

"Would you reverse corporate-centric economic policies?" asked Mark Provost, who identified himself with Occupy Boston and Occupy New Hampshire.

Romney patiently waited him out, then began responding until Provost interjected. See video for their exchange.

New Hampshire voters trying to catch presidential campaign stops ahead of Tuesday's primary may hear more from Occupy protesters. An offshoot of Occupy Wall Street has formed a protest arm, Occupy the New Hampshire Primary, which will hold events this weekend in the state.

In Iowa, Occupy outbursts and conduct led to arrests.

About this column: Your guide to all things involving and surrounding New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation presidential primary. Related Topics: 1 w. state street, Mitt Romney, NH Primary, OWS, and occupy

Gerald Sneirson

9:01 am on Thursday, January 5, 2012

I was listening to Mega rich Willard Romney giving a speech today and the crowd cheered when he said he would repeal “Obamacare”, eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts, turn PBS into commercial radio and television, and shut down all government programs that he didn’t think were necessary (What programs would you not think necessary if you were as rich as Romney?.... hint....Medicare and Social Security) , and on and on with every other thing he could think of that would bring us back to Merrie Old England in the time of Charles Dickens. Then he bragged about being a “job creator”. I was thinking to myself that he actually was a job creator, for jobs in Chinese sweatshops. After making leveraged buyouts of cash rich businesses he and his Bain Capital Vulture Capitalists would strip the companies of all of their cash and assets, fire all the workers, and then set up sweatshops in China to manufacture the same products as had been manufactured by the companies that they had just sucked the lifeblood out of. He made hundreds of millions of dollars doing this for himself and his friends while destroying the lives of many thousands of hard working Americans. His economic activity was unethical and immoral if barely legal, and he shows no remorse for the damage he has caused. After hearing this ridiculous speech the crowd of uncritical thinkers cheered him on. Who are these people???? He is an unthinking uncaring model of greed and selfishness.

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Seamus Carty

12:09 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

During Romney's administration in MA, there was a net increase of jobs, 61,000. During the Obama administration so far, the country has lost 1.8 million jobs.

As for Bain Capital, Staples has 89,000 employees. Bain was an investor.

Some of Bain Capital ventures' companies:
http://www.baincapitalventures.com/portfolio/

And Bain capital's portfolio:
http://www.baincapitalprivateequity.com/Investments/Default.aspx

Note that Skillsoft, a NH company, is on the list.

Meanwhile Obama has invested the public's money in ventures such as Solyndra.

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Jan Schmidt

12:18 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

So Seamus --- Romney would make jobs appear by hiring them... for government work? or take over private companies?

and about his MA record of jobs... ahem...
"The answer to the first is easy: Massachusetts’ economy performed poorly during his tenure and his defense is misleading. Massachusetts’ unemployment generally follows that of the nation as a whole, but it went from slightly better than the national unemployment rate (5.6 percent in the state versus 5.8 percent in the country) when he took office to slightly worse when he left (4.7 percent in Massachusetts versus 4.4 percent nationally). And his record is even arguably worse than that: Massachusetts lost population for two years in a row during Romney’s term. That means the unemployment number went down because the denominator shrank, but that’s hardly a sign of a growing economy. Total jobs in Massachusetts were the same when he left office as when he started and many key industries actually lost jobs."

Jan Schmidt

9:47 am on Thursday, January 5, 2012

Corporations are made up of people? Sure, but they AREN'T people. Cars have people in them, but cars aren't people!

If people want to support candidates, they can give money to the candidates either singly or in groups. But that money should come from people - not corporate coffers that are filled with global money. He won't see this - he's unemployed... living off the billions he made by the closing of businesses.

He's a Vampire Capitalist.

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Seamus Carty

12:00 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

"Vampire Capitalist"... "Vulture Capitalist". How childish. No company ever took venture capital money at gunpoint. It is an agreement between the founders and the financiers.
As for people, yes, corporations are people. The groups include the employees, the corporation's customers, and the stockholders. The same goes for non-profits organizations and academic institutions.

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Jan Schmidt

12:17 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

vanpires and vultures use guns? how strange...

and no, each person is a person - you are not 2 because you belong to a corporation are you?

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Seamus Carty

12:24 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

You mentioned people giving money to candidates in groups. So the ACLU (not a person by your definition) is OK but a corporation is not? Same for the Sierra Club, a teacher's union, etc.

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Jan Schmidt

12:32 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

Seamus -
You seem to have a problem thinking deeply through this issue.
Corporations - in the business of amassing profit to increase the income of their shareholders and their executives.

ACLU? Unions? Protecting the Constitution, protecting people's rights, worker safety, fair treatment, enviormental issues... see the difference?

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Tonto

11:10 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

sorry Jan, if Romney made "billions" then that makes him a hero in my book. That would mean he paid half a billion or so in taxes to feed freeloaders and whiners so they don't have to work :)

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Khyler

7:09 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Corporate personhood has been killing our democracy by making it nearly impossible to regulate what corporations do and how they do it. Monsanto is the perfect example of why corporations should not be considered people, because when they are, they can feed us cancer and there isn't anything anyone can do about it (think "feed us cancer" is an exaggeration? Go research Monsanto). And Jan, I have to agree with Seamus, in the same sense that corporations should not be allowed to make unlimited and anonymous donations to any candidate of their choosing, nor should unions. These entities have near unlimited funds and allowing money to act as speech puts you and I at a huge disadvantage. Until the average American can afford a lobbyist and until big business stops buying out our government, our media, and our country, corporations cannot be trusted with personhood, and nor should unions.

LJoel Hackbart

11:39 am on Thursday, January 5, 2012

Jan. The "cars aren't people" is a brilliant analogy! The other G.O.P. candidates have the audacity to label Mitt "Corporations are people" Romney as a moderate! They
are not fooling me one bit. Romney wanted the auto industry to fail, to let
americans lose their homes, and is sold out to the powers that be- Big Oil, Big
Pharma, Big banks, ect. ect. ect. .Thanks to "Citizens United" he will be bolstered by tens of millions of dollars from those same powers that be in the up coming general
election. Please my fellow progressives wake up!! Realize what is at stake in this
election!

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Seamus Carty

12:02 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

Every day the Federal Government spends $10 billion and takes in $6 billion. It is time for fiscal responsibility.
And the unemployment rate has been higher during every month of the Obama administration than any month of the Bush administration. It's been 3 years and Obama's policies have failed. There is certainly a lot at stake in this election.

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Jan Schmidt

12:19 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

its past time - in fact we're well past the time where cuts can fix anything. return tax levels to when we were solvent and watch that balance return.

reed atamian

12:12 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

We still have a lot to talk about !

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M Car

12:37 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

Given the life of privilege he's enjoyed, it's not surprising that Romney would be so cut off from and blind to the plight of the middle class. But the fact that he's so incredibly tone deaf out about it on the campaign trail is shocking. You would think one of his advisors would take him aside and tell him to tone it down. But instead, Romney blithely jokes about being among the "unemployed" too. HA HA! Isn;t that funny coming from a man worth close to 264 million, much of it gained during his days at Bain Capital shutting down plants and laying off workers as a corporate takeover artist?

Zero self-awareness, zero ability to understand or appreciate the desperate situation so many in the middle class are facing, and zero ideas for reinvigorating the economy besides the same old failed policies tried under Bush (lower corporate taxes, fewer regulations on Wall Street, etc.).

I really don't see how anybody takes him seriously.

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Seamus Carty

3:02 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

No problem thinking things through at all, Jane. I understand you perfectly. Individuals are free to donate to candidates. Groups of people are allowed to donate to candidates as long as those groups do not conflict with your positions on the issues. Groups such as the ACLU and Unions are fine. Groups such as corporations are not.
If the ACLU, unions, and other groups can make donations, then corporations can as well. You can't discriminate on the groups based on what you happen to agree with. Either all groups can contribute or none can contribute....

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Nancy P

9:46 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

"Groups such as the ACLU and Unions are fine. Groups such as corporations are not. "

Got that right, Seamus. All anyone need do is visit Opensecrets.org to see who the heavy hitters are and who they donate the most $ to, for instance

Act Blue is the #1 bundler/PAC donating 99% to Democrats
AFL-CIO 92% Dem
Teamsters Union 89% Dem
UAW 98% Dem
Laborers Union 88% Dem

Apparently Jan would be happy if corporations were non-profit and didn't allow their employees to donate to a candidate of their choice.......like the unions do.

Jack Conaway

3:09 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

Romney changed Bain Capital's business model into leveraged buyouts (LBO's) because there was a lot more money to be made in this than venture capitalism. At the end of his tenure at Bain he was known as the King of LBO's on Wall Street. That's where he made most of his $350M stored in various family trusts.

A recent report of the Group of 30 (group30.org) on the 2008 financial crisis ascribes the causes of financial collapse to "leverage at all levels of the economy" and describes LBO's as a non-productive use of debt. (see my blog on Amherst Patch for details)

Don't expect Mitt Romney to disagree with his buddies on Wall Street.

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Seamus Carty

10:18 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

Obama's second largest contributor in 2008: Goldman Sachs. In the 2012 election, his second largest bundler group is Financial Services (lawyers is #1).
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/bundlers.php?id=N00009638

Jack Conaway

3:21 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

In addition, the Citizen's United decision of the Supreme Court defining corporations as people and money as a form of free speech destroyed all limits to hidden political contributions from large corporations and spawned the Super PACS which are distorting our current political primaries.

We effectively live in a corpocracy until the US Constitution is ammended to strike down the Citizen's Unitede ruling. Money is not speech but is certainly is power.

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Jack Conaway

3:27 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

In addition, the Citizen's United decision of the Supreme Court defining corporations as people and money as a form of free speech destroyed all limits to hidden political contributions from large corporations and spawned the Super PACS which are distorting our current political primaries.

We effectively live in a corpocracy until the US Constitution is ammended to strike down the Citizen's United ruling. Money is not speech but certainly is power.

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ForThePeople

6:54 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

It is certainly surprising. The entire Republican party is open and honest about wanting to unleash corporate power; don't they have it already? Why isn't it working if it's so awesome? Hopefully people will wake up and realize that giving more and more to corporations until they have completely looted the place and moved on to another country (taking their jobs with them) will rob us blind.

Oh wait, that's happening now.

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Nancy P

8:31 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

"The entire Republican party is open and honest about wanting to unleash corporate power; don't they have it already? Why isn't it working if it's so awesome?"

For starters, NAFTA and the US-China trade agreements were signed by Clinton which began the exodus of jobs overseas.

The Republicans only have a majority in the House of Representatives. No matter what they pass to try to prevent job loss or create new ones, it usually gets blocked in the Senate, including the attempt to get the Keystone Pipeline passed.

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David Victory

10:57 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

Yep. Just be nice to them, give them big tax breaks, and then they'll return the favor by "trickling down" jobs as a way of saying "thank you". Hasn't been working well for the last decade. Maybe if we just give them a bit more, and wait a bit longer? I'm willing to pay more in taxes so GE can get an even bigger rebate. THEN I'm sure we'll get our promised windfall. It's a sound investment. Trust them.

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Tonto

11:14 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

One thing I don't understand. Everytime the liberals tax the rich why do they get even richer?

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David Victory

12:05 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

@ Tonto "One thing I don't understand. Everytime the liberals tax the rich why do they get even richer?"

Your question isn't clear. Who do you mean by "they"?

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Tonto

11:13 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012

Don't worry, President Robin hood is gonna take real good care of you man. Please don't hold your breath though :)

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David Victory

12:10 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

@Tonto
I'd settle for "President Stopstherichfromscrewingeveryoneelse". I'm not holding my breath for that, rest assured. Still, even a small step in that direction would be welcome. I'm fairly confident Obama will be reelected. He still has many passionate supporters, and the GOP lineup couldn't be more foolish.

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Tonto

9:51 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

David, thats why I said don't worry. You will be on easy street soon. Just be a good communist and the regime will make certain your fresh crumbs arrive on time :)

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David Victory

9:59 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

@Tonto
"You will be on easy street soon. Just be a good communist and the regime will make certain your fresh crumbs arrive on time."

Is that what Limbaugh is saying? The only ones on "easy street" are people like Mitt.

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Tonto

10:16 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

David, how much do you think Obama should rob from Mitt and give to you?

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David Victory

10:53 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

@Tonto
"David, how much do you think Obama should rob from Mitt and give to you?"

That's cute. Taxes on the wealthiest Americans have been cut, and cut, and cut, while the middle class gets squeezed ever tighter People like Mitt, who was born a millionaire, pay lower taxes now than they ever have. Taxes MUST be paid. When the richest pay less - you pay more. Why would you be ok with that?

Edward Dunsel

10:34 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

Tonto, the only "robbing" that's going on is the continuation of the reverse robin hood. "WE MUST BALANCE THE BUDGET but only by maiing the poorest members of society pay more AND cut services that thos same people use."

Has anyone actually analyzed Willard's tax plans. Why yes, someone has. (along with all the GOP plans):
http://taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/romney-plan.cfm
The "highlights":

---Compared to today’s rates, Romney proposes effective tax increases for people making less than $40,000.

---Above that level, Romney’s plan cuts taxes at greater rates for wealthier people. The average millionaire would thus pay $145,568 less in taxes in 2015 than they do today.

----The Romney plan would lower federal tax liability by $600 billion in calendar year 2015 compared with current law, roughly a 16 percent cut in total projected revenue.

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Tonto

10:48 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

Ed, how much should Robin Hood rob from Mitt and give to you?

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David Victory

10:57 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

But Edward, without these big tax breaks, they might not hire us. Let's cut the tax rates on the top bracket to 0%. Then with all that extra cash, they'll "trickle it down" to us! It makes perfect sense.

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David Victory

11:19 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

Tonto:
"For those in the top 0.01 percent of the income distribution, the effective tax rate was 71.4 percent in 1960, 74.6 percent in 1970, 59.3 percent in 1980, 35.4 percent in 1990, 40.8 percent in 2000 and 34.7 percent in 2004." --Politifact

Jerry Sneirson

10:49 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

Bain Capital is bigger in Asia and India than it is in the US. Romney made his money on the backs of American Workers. He even pays taxes at a much lower rate than most Americans. That is why he won't release his tax records.

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Edward Dunsel

11:48 am on Friday, January 6, 2012

It’s absurd to compare the economic records of a private equity fund manager and the President of the United States, but that’s what Romney’s asking voters to do. Except that while he only touts the jobs he supposedly created — to the exclusion of the jobs he eliminated — he suggests to voters that Obama is responsible for all the job losses that have occurred since he took office in January 2009, several weeks before the stimulus kicked in, when the economy was in mid free fall.

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David Victory

12:02 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012

What more do we need to hear? This screwball STRAPPED THE FAMILY DOG TO THE ROOF OF THE CAR for a TWELVE HOUR TRIP to Canada! The poor creature lost control of its bowels! He should have been charged with animal cruelty!

Anyone with that kind of total lack of empathy is a SOCIOPATH.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/dog.asp

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Tonto

8:09 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012

David and Ed, how much should Obama rob from the rich and give to you guys. Numbers please :)

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David Victory

11:27 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012

@ Tonto
"how much should Obama rob from the rich and give to you guys."

I answered you a couple times already. Review the thread.

Here's one for you, though: How much more in taxes are you willing to pay so Mitt can get a bigger tax cut?

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Tonto

9:17 am on Saturday, January 7, 2012

I would pay Mitt extra under your fantasy theory rather then one whinning gimpy liberal get a cent :)

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David Victory

10:43 pm on Sunday, January 8, 2012

@ Tonto.

Weak. You dodged the question.

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Tonto

11:16 pm on Sunday, January 8, 2012

Your dodging Oblamers game of President Robin Hood :)

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David Victory

11:34 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

@ Tonto
"Your(sic) dodging Oblamers game of President Robin Hood"

Tell us how much more you'd be willing to pay so Mitt can pay even less on his capital gains tax. He needs your money more than you, right?

LJoel Hackbart

11:18 am on Tuesday, January 24, 2012

Fighting for good wages and jobs for all americans is his idea of stealing.
Unbelievable.

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