Top line reason not to elect a democrat Governor

Democrats have a clear choice. Listen to the extreme lefties on Patch or the normal regular folks. The normal regular folks are tired of not being listened to.

Next watch all the phony claims of racism and bigotry. It is unbelivable to make that accusation to 90% of the population of NH.

Also coming up are the people posting from another state.

By the way we live in America. Citizens have the right to vote, that vote should not be deluted by a morally and ethically corrupt democrat party.

We were very close to a Voter I.D. bill this time. Sadly the Republican legislature fought to exclude college I.D. to suppress the college vote. The Governor was ready to sign this bill until Republicans, once again, chose to use voter I.D. legislation to suppress the vote.

"Normal regular folks" is hereby defined as anyone from the crazy far right
extremists.

I'm not laughing. Vote supresion is voter supression regardless.

The far right Tea Party crazy extremists do not tally 9o% of the N.H. population.

Actually every American does have the right to vote. That's why we don't
want your voter suppression efforts. Thanks for making our point.

Most of those out of state people are republicans.

You have to show an ID if you;

Go into a bank to cash a check, ask for a loan and even if you want to open an account and give the Bank your money,
Set up an account with Comcast etc.
Set up electric service, gas service etc.
Apply for a credit card.
Set up a cellular account.
ETC. ETC. ETC.

Why are people afraid of Voter ID?
Because they are afraid of the outcome of a true and fair vote of American Citizens.

Yes it should, you cant buy beer without an I.D., but you can vote without one gimme a f78king break.

Voter fraud is NOT running rampant across the United States. Ohio, rumored to have massive voter fraud had four cases brought up in the 2008 presidential election. Of those, three were the faults of the election officials in the various local precincts. The fourth was a college student who tried to vote in the city where his school was instead of at home where he was registered. The cost is way to expensive to implement. Why do Republicans want to cut government spending except in situations like this in which they have something to gain? Disfranchisement is unconstitutional.

No kidding! i had to show my ID in order to return a shirt to Kohl's...I guess that's more important than verifying whether or not I'm a legitimate NH voter!!

those of you who have forgotten the histories....you are gonna drag us through the slime and mire again....why not just tattoo a bar code on all citizens arm....

fraud. what fraud? you all keep acting like there is some vast conspiracy to defraud the "true" voters. What evidence of fraud is there? None. And that includes anything you might want to make up. The system works fine as it is, adding road blocks is just a ploy to disenfranchise a small number of citizens with out drivers licenses....like my mother-in-law....

Unfortunately, not every American DOES have the right to vote. Disenfranchised felon? No vote for you. Under 21, even if you're over 18 &, say, serving our country? No vote for you, either, even if our decisions send you to war. Unable to obtain citizenship? No for you, of course, & we'd also like to send you "home," even if you came here as a young child & didn't even realize you were illegal until you made it through high school with straight A's & tried to apply for college.

comrade paul please tell us your not stupid enough to equate voter ID with the Nazis tattooing the Jews that were in the concentration camps ..or are you ? as for YOUR mother in law not having a drivers licence be a good LiL son in law and give your monster in law a ride to get her ID , then comrade, when you give her a ride to vote she will be all set.

Kate B , so you think felons should be able to vote ? and you do know that the only thing raised was the drinking age to 21 right ? 18 year olds can still vote, as long as there us citizens and ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL its not an age thing its an ILLEGAL thing....let me take a WILD guess here and go out on a limb and say ...your an obama supporter right ?, its always easy to tell

Your ability to properly sort out the facts is in question. It has something to do with extreme liberalism.

Your ability to write discernible sentences is non existent.

Not even signing a bill allowing for the imprisonment of Americans without trial? Disenfranchising a few people cannot surely equal what Obama signed.

comrade mike, the reason for excluding college IDs is as plain as the red hammer and sickle flag hanging on your porch ,every kid in college has a college ID, out of state ,out of country, it dont matter they have a college ID, you keep pushing this college id as the reason for lynch to veto the bill, but the reasons for excluding this type of id is so obvious ..DAAS

The reason we're seeing so many Republican dominated states trying put an ID requirement for voting is simple and obvious. This last election, a large number of votes cast for Obama came from nonexistent or deceased people (most notably those "represented" by ACORN). At present, there is no way to tell if this had a significant impact on the election or not because without the use of voter ID, no one can tell how many false votes were cast. This isn't about suppressing the vote, it's about making sure that someone isn't trying to stack the vote by submitting more votes than they are legally entitled to cast.

Republicans don't want to stop anyone from voting once. It's the ones who vote several times we are trying to stop. You have to have an ID for everything you do. You democrats just don't like the ID because you want fraud. That's the only way Obama can get elected. There isn't enough either unimformed or stupid people to vote for him, so they pull this "Oh you are trying to suppress the vote "crap. You know it and I know it. If you don't understand that I can't help you.

with 11 million to 20 million illegals here in the US, you would rather they not show I.D.

What do you call suppressing the vote? Making everyone who votes have a valid I.D.

sounds to me that your in favor of me and 500 friends showing up with a college ID(which you dont have to have a state issued ID to get) and voting in your elections. no? why not? you support some union showing up with 500 people from another state to vote in your district,not to mention all the dead people that suddenly rise out of their graves,look healthy and vote.

Once again the Democrats have allowed an issue to get turned around backwards.
The issue is Election Fraud which is a far, far, far more serious crime than the virtually nonexistent act of voter fraud. Bush, over a period of five years fired seven attorneys trying to find examples of significant voter fraud and of course failed, because voter fraud, an individual act, is fundamentally irrational. Election fraud, on the other hand, is a deliberate attempt to alter large voting blocs or segments in effort to change the results of elections. A few, of many examples, are rigging voting machines, not counting voting blocs or closing polling places early. The worse example is voter disenfranchisement. Reducing early voting, reducing same day registration, stopping voter registration drives, and imposing voter ID laws while simultaneously then making it harder to obtain those ID's all of which are now being employed by the republicans.
So my question, Y.C.F.M.N. is how in hell did we allow [the nonexistent] "voter fraud"
[Rather than Election Fraud] to become headline news???????????????
www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?page

You, you crack me up. No voter fraud lol. If no fraud is visible, then why do you care if the pollers ask for I.D.?

The study by the Brennan Center for Justice. That's your proof. Wake up! The Brennan Center is chaired by a member of the DNC. Of course, his report is going to say that. Stop drinking the kool-aid and get your facts straight.

Psychological projection

Romney? Its got to be Romney.

Just as a note on honesty, could we discuss how Obama's membership in the gay bath house known as "Man's Country" in Chicago in the 1990s is consistent with his intentional portrayal of himself as a heterosexual husband and father. An honest candidate would have run as gay or bisexual.

Chris, try this... turn off your TV and get your information from the internet - news sites only - not fox and not msnbc - nothing that is "entertainment" and stay off the opinion pages. Try it for a month, and talk with people who you don't agree 100%, listen more, read... try it for a month.

Chris, Jan Schmidt is running for office in Nashua. As there is no detection system in place for voter fraud, anyone can pick a name out of the phonebook and vote for or against Jan. FYI...

Seamus - what are you afraid of? That Chris will start deciding for himself instead of having the media hand him his opinions?

There is no voter fraud in NH.
The bill was an attempt to limit voters to the main streaam only and disenfranchise others.
If this was a serious attempt to make sure only citizens voted then the state would first issue citizens the IDs they'd need.

Dennis,
Honesty? hahahahahaha

Chris, the correct answer as to who lies would be ......any politician looking for your vote

Really Jan? If it's on the internet, you're saying it must be true? God help the voters of Nashua!

Wow, tc - you sure can jump to conclusions.

The poster is using 2 large media corporations to form his opinions for him. If you get your info from thousands of sources instead - AND ACTUALLY FORM YOUR OWN OPINION - you're much better off.

The power of corporate media today is stunning - even their "news" is carefully formatted to give you their approved talking points.

keith did you copy that crap right off the commiecrat web page ? so there is no voter fraud because you say there isn't any right ? sorry comrade, the only voters disenfranchised by having to show an ID are the illegal voters

Jim, unlike you, I can write my own opinion without copying it from a website.
Commiecrat, how creative and mature.
Even if there were proof of voter fraud, which there is none, but if there were, it doesn't automatically follow that voter ID would stop it, and it doesn't mean the main purpose of the tea party republicans isn't voter suppression.
I know, logical thinking without name calling and expletives seem foreign to you. Maybe there are a few people who deserve their right to vote restricted after all. What town(s) do you vote in, Jim?

GOP Chairman in Pennsylvania makes major mistake (especially for a republican)- he tells the truth, voter ID is designed to deliver PA for Romney. Boy, do all you deniers look silly now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=87NN5sdqNt8

keith how many towns do you vote in ? your the one that's crying that they might actually crack down on voter fraud. The voter suppression and racist or being a bigot BS is just more made up talking points by the left who are fearful their illegal dead and felon voters wont be able to get out and support you democrats... like I said the ONLY voters disenfranchised by voter ID are the ILLEGAL voters

Everett,thank you for your service to your country, that said , if you dont want to vote because you have to prove you are who you say you are ,dont vote, nobody cares, there is a difference between being disenfranchised and being stupid, how is the government intruding on your freedom by asking you for an ID to vote ? sorry ,your argument makes no sense plain and simple. You would think after having fought for this Constitutional right you would be less apt to just hand it to someone who might get to the poll before you and cast a vote on your ballot, it is naive to think there is no voter fraud ,its human nature to want your team to win or your guy to win, to think that some people would not revert to cheating to make this happen is naive.Every illegal vote cancels out a legal vote and one illegal vote is one two many

If you have nothing to hide showing your I D wouldnt bother you so much.

Everett, the right to bear arms is also a constitutionally protected right. To bear arms one must show a photo ID, submit to a background check, pay a fee, and submit to another background check. If I want to bear arms out of state I will pay thousands of dollars, jump through unimaginable layers of red tape, and still often be denied my constitutionally protected right. Why is it that we must show a photo ID to exercise other constitutionally protected rights but not the right to vote?

How many people in NH have been indicted for voter fraud in every election in this and the past centuries? What are the numbers? What % of people eligible do in fact vote? You want only the elite, the "educated" to vote ? Remember when a poll tax was required to keep blacks from voting or how about prior to 1919 when onlly white male property owners could vote, is that what you want to go back to?

You are right. This isn't 1919 anymore is it? Don't give me that it's hard to get an ID The democrats just want a way to cheat. That's the only way Obama gets back in.

Everett:
Heath said nothing about restricting people from being able to vote, just that they show their ID when they vote. This is all about trying to prevent voter fraud.

If you can't verify legitimate voters how do you count the number of illegal votes? With the line of thinking that we shouldn't do anything about an obvious problem then we would ban police departments to stop crime. The whole notion is intellectually bankrupt.

Acorn didn't engage in voter fraud? What have you been smoking. I saw people on TV that said Acorn signed them up 70 times. A bunch of them got caught. The question is how many did they get away with?

ACORN did engage in voter fraud, they were able to hang their people out to dry for it and try to deflect the blame. The main the democrats do not want voter id is it will kill them from using buses to travel there union cronies to vote at several different sites under different names. Voter id will kill the democrats and then all of their lies will have to stop. If the illegals can't vote, cartoon characters can't vote, and the dead can't vote, people like Pelosi knows her cush job with all the fixings is gone. If you need an id for everything else these days then why not for voting. The kool aid drinkers of the democrats need to look else where for the reason they are going to get their clocks cleaned in November, like lieing to the people, or just not doing their jobs they were elected to do.

If you consider what ACORN has done fraud, than the Republican Party should be disbanded too.

Dear Tammy,
Submitting incorrect forms is not "voter fraud".

This isn't an all of a sudden thing . People have been pushing this for years. How long does it take anyway? This really should have been done all along. They are finding dead voters all the time. We live in an age where people can't be trusted. Obama will get in by any means possible and you know he will. There are people in jail right now that voted for him multiple times. How many didn't get caught. Also ,these peoples votes counted even though they are in jail didn't they? If Obama gets re-elected so be it, but let it be fair. One vote per person.

It is Sunday and i can get an I D tomorrow. What is the big deal about it? If you want your vote to count and you dont have an I D go get one.

they did not commit voter fraud ...no votes were cast ,they merely asked for ballots for people who were dead and after the poll workers offered them the ballots they refused them because they had no ID, in order for it to be voter fraud they would have had to have taken the ballot fill it out and submit it

no Richard , there is no voter ID system on the patch polls so anyone can vote multiple times with the same IP address......now ,if only there was some form of voter ID to stop people from committing voter fraud in these polls, then they would be reliable

so Gary what are you trying to tell us? are you trying to tell us that democrat voters such as yourself are so stupid , they couldn't handle the relatively easy task of obtaining a voter ID ?

Believe it or not Gary, It's the law, and it's a fenolny to commit voter fraud.

P.S U R full of it

Next, you're going to claim that there are voting booths in prisons. Get real!

I have a question then, if it is simply a Republican scam....why did delegates at the DNC need ID to get in?

aloud means to say something. what you mean is "allowed" Not to be mean, simply assuming you want your English to be correct. English is a tough language.

Jack. You don't really know what kind of voter fraud might happen in November do you? If you do, can you send me some lottery numbers? Fight voter ID says one thing to me. "We can't cheat as easy if we have that." What are guys worried about that Obama can't get elected if he doesn't cheat? You need an ID to do about anything. You guys know this. There are people in jail that voted multiple times for Obama. One is tahead of a Planned Parent Hood chapter . I believe she voted 35 times. We need this ID law everywhere. Apparently democrats can't be trusted or we wouldn't need it.

Negligible voter fraud in NH? How would we know? We use the honor system. Unless someone confesses to voter fraud there is no enforceable crime committed. How many criminals seek out the authorities and give a full confession? It is nothing short of crazy and irresponsible to use the honor system to determine who is and who is not an eligible voter.

Jim: You obviously are a very sick individual. Interesting that when I took an oath to serve my country and fight in Vietnam they said there were those like yourself that one wouldn't want to protect, but must. My deepest sympathies to you and your hatred! E Edmunds

Say no to bigotry and hatred.

Vote against fear and loathing 2012.

Everett I do not now nor have I ever needed your protection , there is no hatred in my post I am just pointing out what you democrats think of each other, As someone who fought the communist in Nam you would think you would be disgusted at the communists that have taken over your party.

for the sheeple ,does that mean your not voting for obama this time around

Jim,
Let me break this down for you.. I hope this helps you and others on this page:

Race has nothing to do with obtaining an ID, unless your race has somehow placed you in a financial situtation that makes the $10 requirement to obtain a non-driver ID in NH a burden($50 for a driver's license), plus the cost of obtaining the documents required to get one: http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/forms/documents/identification-residency.pdf

Being elderly can also place one in a category where it is a financial burden, and may as well be a burden to find a ride to the DMV, of which there is not an abundance of if you don't live near a big city in NH (and we don't have public transportation).

Open your mind and kill the caps lock. It does you no justice.

Freedom Always, the post points out exactly what the democrats think of the people they claim to represent , your right voter ID has NOTHING to do with race I NEVER said it did ! but the commiecrats continually make it about race or age or gender or what ever fits their agenda the day there making voter ID a talking point, dont play the cost game with me , it costs peanuts to obtain an ID and then dont play the I dont drive game, because if a person can get a ride to vote they can get a ride to get an ID. And just to let you know how a keyboard works cap lock means your caps are locked on and EVERYTHING you type is in caps, go back and read my post slowly and with an open mind and you will see that obviously my cap lock was not on. Your post does you no JUSTICE.

Freedomalways, Anyone that has the capacity to get to the polls has equal capacity to get a photo ID. That argument is intellectually bankrupt. As to the cost of the IDs what part of free is it exactly that you don't get? There is no good reason not to require voter ID. Most people in this country don't vote because they think their vote doesn't count. We need voter ID if for no other reason than to return confidence in the integrity our elections to the people of New Hampshire.

Everett, I'm a registered independent and you still have not explained how asking for an ID to vote intrudes on your God given or Constitutional rights , you cant trust the govt to clear the voter rolls of felons and dead people that's been proven and you cant trust people to not commit voter fraud, so to ask a voter for ID insures we have an honest election, what the hell is so hard to understand about this ?

Everett I have to ask you ,do you think a person should be required to obtain a concealed weapon permit to carry a hand gun ? I know this has nothing to do with voter ID

My best friend, while not a senior citizen, doesn't drive or have a driver's license. That said, he DID take the time to go to the OMV to acquire a legal state ID that looks identical to a driver's license but has ID stamped across it in large visible letters. That is just as legal a means of ID as a driver's license, so he can still vote. It's easy to call someone a fool who doesn't agree with you, but lit doesn't make it true. Photo ID is NOT about voter suppression, it's about making sure that the situation is truly one vote per person.

Paul ,not doing everything possible to insure there is no voter fraud violates my civil rights to a fair and honest election. My Dads 87 still drives and thinks voter ID is a must ,how does a photo ID suppress voters , you say your mom doesn't drive ,how does she get to the polls to vote ? if you drive her to the polls then you can also give her a ride to get her voter ID, the voter suppression BS is a made up argument by democrats nothing more ,the only voters it will suppress are the illegal ones and if you think otherwise you are either a fool or part of the problem !

I am not a fool or part of the problem. How hard would it be for your mother to go have her picture taken? Unless she is bedridden I would think that could be done. If she can go vote she should be able to go have a picture taken. You say she shoud be able to "show" an electric bill or social security card then I assume she is not voting absentee.

Perhaps you can explain how it is that someone with the capacity to get to the polls possibly several times a year somehow lacks equal capacity to obtain a photo ID once every five years? That argument is intellectually bankrupt.

Bravo, well said! And thank you for serving, there are still many of us who haven't served but still respect and appreciate those of you who have.

Democrats don't really care about their constituents except on election day. They don't really care whether or not their constituents can fully participate in the day to day transactions of life in America, being able to do things like cash a check, legally buy alcohol or cigarettes, get a credit card, etc--they only care that, on one day, every two or four years, they can get those undocumented voters out to support whatever democrat candidate is running. After that, those illegal voters have served their purpose, and they should just sink back into the anonymity from which they came, to be forgotten until the next election, safely back on their respective "reservations," with just enough food, money, or "fire water" to keep them placated and in the democrat fold.

Not Democrats in general, most of them want voter ID too. No, it's just the party leadership and they are in lock step with the radical leftists in the party. I'm hoping the reasonable moderate Democrats in this state take back control of their party or have the courage to help us defeat them.

comrade Lil joe da hack ,how convenient that you dont mention hollyweed or Soros or any of the other billionaires or money machines that always support the commiecrats, your a hoot .

Oh Jim the whack please,
That was a truly a lame response even by the pitifully low bar you already set.
If I'm a "hoot' than you are downright insanely hysterical. I’m laughing so hard I
barely type! OK. I'll try playing along with your fantasy as well. Say that 17 of the top
20 donors in this election cycle are NOT conservative leaning. Say conservative donors DO NOT outspend liberal donors by four to one. Say Soros and Hollywood
and unions we're not overwhelming out spent by the Koch Brothers, Adelison, Peterson, Rove and Americans for prosperity ECT. ECT. ECT. Let’s say ALEC was NOT
corrupting our political system. Let’s say Murdoch has NOT established a media
Empire throughout the USA. [Remember we're fantasizing here!!]
Than explain why then on God’s green earth, would conservatives not want to
repeal Citizens United and get ALL outside money out of politics and clean up the Media? Why?
To answer that question, it’s time to end the fantasy and wake up to reality once
again. The answer. Because 17 of the top 20 donors ARE conservative leaning!
Because conservative donors DO outspend liberal donors by four to one! Because
ALEC IS corrupting our political system! Because Rupert Murdoch HAS a media
Empire here in the USA that's why!!!!!!!!! You keep fantasizing and keep me laughing at you!!!!!!!!!!!

comrade Lil joe ,I hope you didn't laugh so hard you wet yourself ..again. If you liberals and OWS losers got off your couch's got a job and did something with your lives then perhaps you could be in the top 20 donors list and outspend the republicans . Its kinda hard to donate your welfare check, you days pan handeling intake or your beer money to an election campaign and expect it to make a difference...OK LIl joe you can go back to ROTF

With elections often being determined by a handful of votes especially in local elections even a few ineligible votes can tip the balance. Our elections are too important to allow even one fraudulent vote. This argument is intellectually bankrupt.

Jim the whack,
OMG So now you tack on yet another paranoid delusion of yours. [That everyone who puts you in your place is sitting at home drawing welfare] You sure do have a lot of them. Maybe you should lay off the GOP LSD. No Jim. We everyday people that live in the real world and earn an honest living cannot outspend Oil Barons and Hedge Fund Managers, much less Multi-National Corporations. But then again, because you’re too stupid to figure that out, go ahead, kick back and take your drugs.
BTW- YOU ARE A BIG JOKE AND YOU ARE BEING LAUGHED AT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suzanne how convenient to vote to stop voter fraud after it happen es , why dont we put gay marriage on the ballot instead

Thanks Big Joe for pointing out what should be obvious to the trolling majority in this comment section. Voting is a constitutional right. In my opinion, any efforts to impede my or ANY other American's rights, be they of ANY political affiliation, should be swiftly removed from the table. I'm already registered to vote, but if I am asked to present ID at the polling place I will kindly refuse and if denied I will bring about a civil lawsuit against the State of NH for denying me my CIVIL RIGHT to vote.
If I others are denied I will make certain it becomes a class action suit.

comrade big joe, what about my right to a fair and honest election where I dont have to worry about some dead man casting an illegal vote that will negate my legal vote you commiecrats think your the only ones with rights

comrade kevin if it becomes a law you go right ahead son and refuse to cast your vote be a man ,show em who's boss march right out of the polling place and straight to a lawyers office and you start that class action law suit that will go nowhere please take all the commiecrat obama supporters with you tell them not to vote if their forced to show ID ...the ONLY voters disenfranchised by voter ID are the illegal voters.......who by the way will have to show ID to take part in comrade kevin pees law suit ...you guys are a laugh a minute

Bearing arms is a right and I have to show a photo ID, submit to a background check, pay a fee, and submit to another background check. If I want to bear arms outside of New Hampshire I will have to pay thousands of dollars, struggle through unimaginable red tape, and I will still have my right denied to me in many states. Anyone who has the capacity to get to the polls has equal capacity to get a photo ID.

Given the massive vote fraud in Pennsylvania in 2008 it probably will result in exactly that with fair elections.

and that is relevant how?

Submitting false or incomplete registration forms is not "voter fraud".

The California Secretary of State's Election Fraud Division is now reportedly investigating a firm hired by the Sacramento County Republican Party said to have submitted 7500 fraudulent voter registration forms.

The GOP must be disbanded immediately.

More democrat hogwash, or outright lies.

The good news Richard is that you still are not required to have an I.D. to vote.
If you show up at the polls without an I.D. that will just have you sign an affidavit and have your picture taken and you will get to vote.
After the election, they will send a letter to the address you gave and ask that you return the verification card.
If you don't return the verification card, they will send a sheriff by to check on you.

Honestly it all sounds like a lot of fun, I may forget my I.D. just to get to meet a sheriff.

More baloney from Faux Noise.