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Rep: Let Voters Decide Gay Marriage [VIDEO]

Anti-same-sex marriage bill will come up for a vote next week.

 

The prime sponsor of a bill to eliminate same-sex marriage in New Hampshire is amending his legislation to include a statewide ballot initiative allowing people to vote on the measure in November.

State Rep. David Bates, R-Windham, said at a press conference today in Concord that it became evident that his bill did not have enough votes to override Gov. John Lynch’s veto threat. In recent weeks, he began working on ways to amend his bill in order to gain enough votes to override the veto.  

The changes to House Bill 437 include what Bates called a more concise statement of purpose, including the reestablishment of civil unions without any civil rights challenges. It also eliminates the religious liberty clause and pares down the definition of marriage to about two brief paragraphs, he said.

“This will eliminate the baseless but effective, hysterical claims that others have been making that this bill would permit or encourage incest in New Hampshire,” he said. “Our opponents can no longer make the ridiculous claims that this law will eradicate the state’s anti-discrimination laws.”

Bates said the statewide ballot initiative had been added to the bill in an effort to allow the voters to determine the course of what the definition of marriage is. The question will read: “Shall New Hampshire law allow civil unions for same-sex couples and define marriage as a union between one man and one woman?”

It will not be binding on the Legislature, but he said the ballot measure will clarify the will of the people.

“There will be no more guessing, no more arguing or debating over dueling polls, just the actual voice of the people telling us what their will is on this issue,” he said. “I’m ready to accept and implement the will of the people on marriage in this state. I hope the rest of the Legislature is as well.”

Bates noted that the original same-sex marriage bill did not receive approval from the Judiciary Committee in 2009 and the state Senate determined it to be inexpedient to legislate. However, the Democrats were able to push through the bill by razor-thin margins, he said. The burden of changing law is a much higher threshold, he said, adding that the changes should allow more people to support the ballot initiative amendment.

Tyler Deaton, a lobbyist for Standing Up for New Hampshire Families, said many Republicans in the Legislature rejected the core premise of the bill because it was “taking away rights.”

If approved by the voters in November, the traditional marriage law would take effect on March 31, 2013. If rejected, the Legislature would have time to take action against the original bill to preserve same-sex marriage. Bates said if the voters disapprove of the traditional marriage language at the ballot box, he and others would drop the issue.

Related Topics: David Bates, HB 437, Legislative Office Building, Standing Up for NH Families, and same-sex marriage

Christopher Serlin

1:47 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Rep Bates seems to forget the entire reason why we have a Constitution that protects minority rights. We have those protections so that, in theory at least, no matter how large a majority the rights of the Minolta cannot be arbitrarily taken away. Not only do supporters of marriage equality repeal not have public opinion on their side, their legal maneuverings are unconstitutional.

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Seamus Carty

10:05 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

There have been votes in many states on gay marriage. If it were against the constitution, someone would have filed a lawsuit. Let the people of NH vote as has happened in other states

susanthe

3:50 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

If he accepted the will of the people, than the fact that marriage equality is LAW in NH, followed by polling data that shows the majority of NH voters support equality, than he'd just shut up. It is, however, Representative Bates that finds marriage equality repugnant, and he's attempting to legislate his own obsessions.

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Seamus Carty

10:07 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

When did we vote on this? I don't remember any politician running on gay marriage. Let people vote

James Gill

5:33 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

When you dont know the IN From the Out ,and you think the out is IN .your in trouble

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Blue Stapler

5:53 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

What a colossal waste of time on Master Bates part. There is no legal reason to deny civil marriage to same sex couples and he knows this, otherwise he would present one. The fallacy that this should be put to the voters is a simple smokescreen to promote his prejudice and desire to discriminate against his fellow citizens.

The only harm done by same sex marriage is on the hands of Master Bates and others who oppose equal civil rights for all citizens, their families, and their children.

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ForThePeople

6:49 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Remember to vote in November. Reject bigotry 2012. Reject fear and loathing 2012.

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Jcarn

8:09 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

The only fear and loathing I have is for the marxist agenda of the ultra liberal lunatics who have taken over the democratic party.

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ForThePeople

9:12 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Yes, I know. That's actually my point. Your entire point of view is predicated on fear and loathing. That's how the right-wing gets you. They appeal to folks that aren't too smart and don't know how to understand the world around them. How do I communicate with someone whose fabric of reality comes from a book of magic from 2000 years ago?

Your only way out is to actually read, examine the facts, look at the evidence, and entertain the idea that there is a whole world around you that expands beyond your scared small-minded attitude. I doubt you even know what a Marxist agenda is, much less what a liberal is.

Too much Glenn Beck, I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO1timWATHE

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Seamus Carty

10:10 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

The voting on gay marriage started in November 2010. You may have missed it. Lynch won't run again as he knows he'll lose.

Lisa

6:57 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

I am so very, very sad that Dave Bates represents my town. My town is full of caring, intelligent and compassionate people - definitely NOT traits exhibited in Bates. Hateful, cruel and prejudiced. You do not represent us and you will never, ever be re-elected. An elected official has a beautiful opportunity to make the world a better place and this is how you chose to spend your time?. Shame on you, Dave.

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David Victory

10:44 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

@ Lisa

Thoughtful comment. Take heart. Bigots like Bates are a dying breed. A primitive generation is passing away; one that can't imagine a more compassionate, inclusive world.

"In what is likely one of the most dramatic turnarounds in public cultural and social attitudes in quite sometime, we’re seeing yet more evidence that public acceptance of same-sex marriage is now at points where it’s the opponents of marriage equality who are soon likely to be in the minority."
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/public-acceptance-of-same-sex-marriage-at-all-time-high/

James Gill

8:02 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Humans come from Man and Woman or dont you know ? its called marrage .

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David Victory

10:45 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

@ James

Gay humans come from man and woman, too, right?

Christopher Serlin

8:07 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Mr Gill: the state does not require children be born to any couple as a condition of granting marriage rights. So denying same-sex couples right to marry based on that argument is no different than targeting them for discrimination and as such would not be legal.

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Dennis Taylor

9:21 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

The state needs to get out of the business of granting marriage licenses. The state should not provide any tax incentives to married persons or heads of households. Nor should it mandate any other economic advantage for those who choose to cohabitate. If two adults wish to make a contract between themselves, let them. Churches can provide marriages, and practitioners of homosexual behavior can shop for ones that will "marry" them. With the state-given economic advantages removed, all persons in unions will have only the social status acribed by others for their particular union. With noone benefiting legally by being joined-other than what they themselves contract for-all will have equality.

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Peter Macdonald

10:56 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Interesting premise. Certainly removes a whole boatload of emotional, religous, personal and other objections, and boy does that level the playing field - Deny status to all and now all are equal. Nah, way to simple.

Christopher Serlin

10:20 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Seamus: the people did vote in CA. And that vote was found to be unconstitutional in Federal Court. Your argument is the same argument made in favor of anti-miscegenation laws in the US, and south in particular, in the 1900s. Majorities voting on rights of minorities typically end up being overturned on constitutional grounds. And for good reason.

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Seamus Carty

9:29 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

The Supreme Court has not decided if it is unconstitutional or not. That was a lower court and that decision is being appealed. Votes have happened in 28 states. Why deny the people of NH the opportunity to vote on this redefinition of the word marriage?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States

David Victory

10:34 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

"They don't like gay love because it's not what they do and it's not what their neighbors do and therefore it must be evil and wrong and bizarre, and, being Americans, if we don't understand something we either kill it or ban it or poison it or vote against it about 1,000 times until we exhaust every possible angle of idiocy. And then last thing we do, the very last thing of all, is to finally, reluctantly, nervously welcome it in. A change finally happens, a switch is thrown, a new generation sweeps in and wonders what the hell the big deal was in the first place, and we wake up to a world that says: Wow, I guess that wasn't so bad after all. We should've allowed that gay marriage thing a lot sooner." -- Mark Morford, SF Gate

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Bek

11:30 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

There should be no shame for someone who is standing up for what they believe is important to the future of our country. Having a strong opinion doesn't make you "hateful, cruel or prejudiced." You're comments toward Bates for making his own stand seem hateful to me.

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David Victory

11:49 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

@ Bek

Bates is a demagogue. That's nothing to be proud of.

saminnh

7:16 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Marriage is how a family is defined. Marriage equality allows all families to be equal in the eyes of the state. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one; otherwise stay out of your neighbors business.

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Lisa

8:03 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

@Bek
Rest assured, I respect those who have strong opinions. However, I don't want to be represented by someone who is prejudiced. I do hope that none of Bates' sons is gay because that would be one tough journey for them. Again, I'm just sad.

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saminnh

8:29 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

People like Bates who obsess about other people's business, are often hiding from something inside themselves that they don't want to face. It would be no surprise to learn that Bates is dealing with such issues himself.

I have read this morning that he may talk about irrelevant health issues on the floor when he presents his amendment which he will claim is reason to deny gay people the rights to Life, Liberty, and Happiness, which he himself enjoys.

P. Smith

9:26 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

I'm all for voting on Gay Marraige, as long as it's fair & I get to vote on Bates' marraige as well. Might look a little something like this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNiqfRyoAyA

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d dog

9:27 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

The good lord calls homosexually an abomination....That good enough for me...It is our business when the gays shove their marriage agenda down our throats and our chidrens throats in school etc...what would our grandparents think of all of this...just because times change, does not means our morals and beliefs have to...how far we have come...New Hampshire was once very conservitive....too many Mass impants over the years...wake up NH

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saminnh

9:33 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

You are sadly way out of touch with reality dog. We are not living in Somalia, at least not yet. Who cares what your dead ancestors would think.

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thytt

9:22 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

D-Dog,
Interesting that you bring up grandparents.. Some are still around like my grandmother who has no issue with gay marriage. " the lord calls homosexuality an abomination" In case you forgot the Lord; Im not sure which one you speak of maybe Voldemort from Harry Potter, has no place in politics. Stop speaking for a book and having a book represent your opinions. Live Free or Die!! oh unless your gay

mark gross

12:01 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Rep Bates needs to be unseated for his narrow minded views.........he probably is hiding some deep seated issue such as his closeted homosexuality.......doth those protest too much.....

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